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Nabokov
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 4:50 am    Post subject: which NHL goalie uses my style of play? Reply with quote

I want to watch someone who uses my style of play. My technique is a much lower stance than most goalies i play against. the technique is i get my head as low as possible with my legs low and wide so that i can do a quick butterfly save, however mobility is limited with this stance, thus when shorthanded i skate over at a higher stance and return to this low stance with my head low positioned at the shooter. When he shoots i am very quick to go down and i make alot of head saves because of this very low stance. My weakness is players moving in alone on odd man rushes to take a shot because when in my low stance it is difficult to move quick and i have to be in this position at all times because he can take the shot at anytime where if he shoots blocker side i am pretty much screwed as this side is my weakness. also i find that this low stance allows me to easily look under and around screeners and is ideal taking away the five hole with a wide butterfly stance that is performed very quickly. i also play very deep in my crease as my mobility is limited with my stance, also i'm not the world's greatest skater (lol)
does anyone else play this style and who in the NHL is best at this style, what are other pros and cons of playing this method.
I've tried to play a more stand-up style but i get worried about my 5-hole and want to get lower so i don't get beaten between the legs, also my vision isn't as great when standing up, i like to get my head as close to the ice level and possible. also note my pads are vaughn vaults 38'' and i am only 6'1'' i got them used at a discount price from a guy who is about 6'5'' the size of the pads doesn't seem to be an issue as it closes off 5 hole really well but when i am in my stance the pads overlap, one pad must be in front of the other, i haven't had problems with this though. i grew up idolizing roberto luongo watching him in florida and vancouver and have noticed he doesn't play as low as he used to anymore. Confused i kind of adapted his style but does anyone else in the league currently use this or have i grown accustomed to an obsolete style considering i am not as big as luongo using his old style?
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puckstopper135
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't really noticed any of the goalies using the style you described, since obviously the big part is the lack of mobility. I'd say try to stand up a bit more, and if you're fast getting to the ice it won't be affected that greatly.
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Arthriticbutterflystyle
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS is right. The days of the pure butterfly stance are gone because it's far too ineffective in comparison to it usefulness. You're much better up standing up just a bit further to allow better movement and still a ready stance to drop to a wide butterfly. I'd say the best goalies to watch right now would be Jonas Hiller and Roberto Luongo. They'd both give you the best idea of how to play.
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like a pretty similar stance to what Vanbeisbrouck used in the mid 90s.
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slinky wrote:
sounds like a pretty similar stance to what Vanbeisbrouck used in the mid 90s.


Which again goes to show that the stance for one reason or another is somewhat dated and a little illogical. Like I said, it's probably time to revamp your style a little bit and adapt to the other changes. "Those who fail to learn from the past are bound to repeat the mistakes."

There's lots of great training aides these days. You have the ProHybrid training videos, that slide mat thing, YouTube and the list goes on. Not to mention all of us on here have pretty well varied so you have us to use too.
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Nabokov
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slinky wrote:
sounds like a pretty similar stance to what Vanbeisbrouck used in the mid 90s.


what are you talking about im talking about LOW old luongo style, vanbiesbrouck doesnt play that low. im talking top of pads no more than 2 feet off the ice. and it seems to be working really great for me you guys with exception for high shots, i am able to play much better in this stance then at a higher stance where i let tons of five hole goals in and get beaten high as well since it takes forever to go down Evil or Very Mad i prefer the advantage of knowing nothing is going in low so i can concentrate on the upper portion of the net Twisted Evil that's my secret to success
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nabokov..

You play at 8 rinks? ASHL? ice604?
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make your own style work for you! I'm more hybrid of butterfly and stand up. I've had to force myself to improve speed moving laterally and also doing it smooth and controlled. I get yelled at during rat hockey all the time because I put my stick on top of the cage for about 20 minutes everytime I skate. It forces me to move my legs to the ice quicker.

Spend a few minutes during every session working on movement. Coming out of your crease to challenge the shot, moving backwards and dropping into a save. The work on moving side to side, dropping into and popping back out of your butterfly.

A low stance will help with screens, but standing up a little taller and only crouching when you have to accomplishes the same feat.

Odd man breaks suck, period. Worry about your shooter and let the D take the pass. Focus on taking good aggressive angles. Once you get beaten a few times for being too aggressive, you'll find a nice middle ground.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My style is standup but i go down on every shot like Ryan Miller Cool
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find when there is a breakaway, I will use this stance as I feel I can really commit once they have committed. Also When you guys are facing breakaways do you get sick close to the shooter, like 2 feet between? I have been doing this lately and have been having nothing BUT success. I think they dont know what to do as you are so close. It could just be me tho. also poke checks are much easier, as the pucks are right in front of you.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to get lower when taking breakaways but not wide in the stance enough to have trouble skating. I think that the spacing is very important but 2 feet seems pretty close, especially since it's already in poke check range. If they're that close, I try to catch them with the poke check. But if I can't get the poke check off, then at least it's close enough to butterfly slide when they got to choose which way to go and they can't roof it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rfalls86 wrote:
I find when there is a breakaway, I will use this stance as I feel I can really commit once they have committed. Also When you guys are facing breakaways do you get sick close to the shooter, like 2 feet between? I have been doing this lately and have been having nothing BUT success. I think they dont know what to do as you are so close. It could just be me tho. also poke checks are much easier, as the pucks are right in front of you.


i do yhe same thing on breakawys but it worls for me about 90% of the time becuse they just miss the net.
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