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| Who is the most under rated NHL goalie? |
| Timmy Thomas |
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15% |
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| Ryan Miller |
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5% |
[ 1 ] |
| Nic Backstrom |
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25% |
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| Mike Smith |
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10% |
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| Kari Lehtonen |
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25% |
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| Mikka Kiprusoff |
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0% |
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| Martin Biron |
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20% |
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goalieboy#1 Pro
Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 513 Location: Sioux Falls, SD
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:56 am Post subject: |
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Actually, you'd be surprised by a couple kids my age, or a year older. One kid on my team was in selects and made it to the NY final 16 prospects camp (best 16 kids in all of Mn, Nd, Sd, etc.etc.) but I bet they are pretty amazing, still think it's be fun, just to see what it'll take to get to that level. _________________
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Slinky Minors
Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 471 Location: Canton, GA
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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They are very good, but the former ECHL player that was in my league said that i was as good as a lot of the guys he shot on when he was playing in the ECHL. I don't know that the difference in physical ability or potential is that huge for some of these guys, but they work so much harder than anyone else at what they do, and know so much about the game. They have enormous physical talent, but i think their mental capacity is what seperates a lot of them from the everyone else.
That's one thing i love about hockey (there's nothing that i don't love about hockey to be honest). When we have former pros... you know it when they're on the ice, but the sport itself is so team oriented, that they don't just go out and win the entire game for a team with 5 unassisted goals every night. They're biggest impact is the way they draw attention and dish to other players that are open for solid chances.
Really only a goalie has the ability to nearly single handedly win a game. When i started playing in our adult A league growing up (i was 15 or 16 at that time), we had Jaro, a czech guy that played a few years in the NHL before his motorcycle accident. I knew it when he was on the ice, not because he put so many goals in, because he drew so much attention that the rest of his team was wide open. In a 16 game season, he may have had 8 goals... but he'd have 30+ assists. _________________ Because it hurts so good.
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caveman27 Minors
Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 167
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Underrated by who? Some of those guys are listed as Vezina Trophy candidates. |
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Slinky Minors
Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 471 Location: Canton, GA
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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the ones that are have 1 nomination, largely because Luongo and Brodeur normally take up 2 spots every single year.
Thomas, best GAA and save % in the NHL... barely gets any mention with elite goalies. Biron is a solid goalie, in a brutal market for goalies. The others are really in smaller markets that don't get any coverage. Smith, Lehtonin, Backstrom, Miller. _________________ Because it hurts so good.
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Arthriticbutterflystyle Hall of Fame
Joined: 01 Feb 2009 Posts: 1936 Location: Calgary AB
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah but Thomas isn't "Elite" yet IMO. To be Elite you not only have to post great numbers (Not necessarily top number, but 5th or better) at least 2 or 3 consecutive years. Anyone can have an epic year, but if you do it back to back to back then I shall call you Elite. |
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Slinky Minors
Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 471 Location: Canton, GA
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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thomas was top 5 last year too... he was the year before that but didn't have enough games to qualify for most of the stat sheets b/c he was splitting time w/ hannu toivonen, who... is somewhere in st. louis's farm system now i think.
i wouldn't say he's elite yet either... but he definitely deserves more ink than he gets _________________ Because it hurts so good.
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montreal961 GoalieForum Legend
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 5699 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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The most overrated underrated goalie is Thomas. All I ever hear is people saying "He's so underrated!” well so your saying he's good? And if everyone says he’s good, then he’s not underrated.  |
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