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canadian_man_44
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 Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: Brodeur going for the tie of Roys record. |
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I know it's totally coincidence, but, Brodeur is going for the tie of Roys record tonight....in Montreal against Roys old team. Should be a good game, but I'm hoping he has to wait one more game before reaching this milestone.
In other words....Good luck Marty, just not tonight. 
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puckstopper135
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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MARTY FTW TONIGHT!
That would be so kickass, what are the chances?  |
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Arthriticbutterflystyle
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Not to mention Brodeur's home town. |
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itechwarrior
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Roy > Brodeur
at this point anyways.
Roy won the cup with two different teams. Roy played in a time when the game was not kind to goalies. Brodeur played and won most of his games/titles in the dead puck era, hell his team was responsible for the dead puck era.
Brodeur, will continue on for many more years to come. Which then he will surpass Roy on many levels. |
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Slinky
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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A) the chances are roughly 2 in 30 =P
B) Brody is better than Roy
C) Roy won the cup with 2 different teams b/c he bitched his way off one excellent team onto a different excellent team. The Devils weren't nearly as "dead puck" as everyone claims in the 90s. They were consistently among the top 5 in scoring in the late 90s and early 2000s. Am I the only person that remembers the EGG line? Elias, Gomez, Gionta. They tore it up. Finally, Hasek dominated the awards in the "dead puck era" of the 90's/early 2000s. Brody broke the single season wins record post lockout, with a seriously undermanned team, and has won the Vezina... once... twice? i'm drawing a blank, maybe twice... idk, once at least, in the 3 completed post-lockout... i think twice.... 3? no.... 2x
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puckstopper135
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BRODEUR TIES THE RECORD!!!
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I may not like the style he uses, but the man can get it done, congrats Marty! 
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Marty will be going for sole possession of the lead against my Hawks on St. Pats day. While I dont want to see my guys lose in a playoff race I would like to be able to watch the game since the next 3 games for jersey are not nationally televised.
Tuesdays game is on Versus.
For those who dont get Versus you may be able to watch it streaming online from one of the following links....
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/habsvision
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/puckheaven
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/hockey-live
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Slinky
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THE 552 GAME IS ON VERSUS... YOU JUST MADE ME SQUEAL LIKE A LITTLE GIRL!
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canadian_man_44
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Thanks for the links Hawks. I'll be watching Marty break the record, whenever it may be. Although I don't agree with some people that he is a better goalie(face it people, he played on a trap team with excellent defense most of his career), Brodeur does deserve to have this record for himself just for the simple fact that he is a stand up/hybrid goalie in a position dominated by the butterfly. Good luck in the record breaking game Marty.
Slinky....Roy won the cup with 2 different teams. One that was very good(Colorado) and one that got there because of Roy(Montreal).
Roy played on a Montreal team that relied heavily on it's goaltender.
Brodeur, on the other hand, played on a team that got the lead and kept it by trapping....before the rule changes. The Devils were always a very good defensive team. Yeah, you're right about the scoring on the team. They were also good at that, but they were better at shutting the other team down in the neutral zone.
The argument about the scoring touch of the EGG line doesn't bode well with your statement that "Brody is better than Roy" Roy played on a team that allowed a lot of shots and didn't score a ton of goals while Brodeur played on a team that scored a ton of goals and didn't allow many shots. Who is the better goalie there?
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Slinky
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The devils were a great defensive team, yes, but they weren't nearly as defensive as everyone remembers. Brodeur kept those numbers down. Only 2 teams out did their firepower at the time, the Wings and the Aves.
I'll give props to the Roy that won cups in Montreal in the 80s (but Montreal was no David vs. Goliath story)... but by the 90s... he was a b***h. An arrogant, whining, complaining b***h. He told his son to go beat the living crap out of the opposing goalie for no apparent reason. Someone like that should never get a vote as "best of all time."
Finally, the Aves were great on offense and defense in the 90s- early 2000s. The team that won in 96 could've won with virtually any goalie in net, except for maybe against the 96 Wings in the conference finals.
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canadian_man_44
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| Slinky wrote: | The devils were a great defensive team, yes, but they weren't nearly as defensive as everyone remembers. Brodeur kept those numbers down. Only 2 teams out did their firepower at the time, the Wings and the Aves.
I'll give props to the Roy that won cups in Montreal in the 80s (but Montreal was no David vs. Goliath story)... but by the 90s... he was a b***h. An arrogant, whining, complaining b***h. He told his son to go beat the living crap out of the opposing goalie for no apparent reason. Someone like that should never get a vote as "best of all time."
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1. No one is arguing anything about the Devils firepower. Yes, they had great offense, but, they also played the trap better then any team in the league. As soon as they got the lead, they formed up the trap in the neutral zone.
2. I don't know where you get the arrogant, whining and complaining from about Roy. He was left in a game for 8 goals when he had already asked the rookie coach to take him out because he knew he wasn't on his game that night. The stupid part of the crowd in Montreal that night were booing him, even though he had already brought them two Stanley Cups. He didn't whine or complain. He simply went to the owner and told him he wouldn't play another game in Montreal if Tremblay was still the coach. He was just stating fact. It's only too bad the owner wasn't smart enough to fire the coach instead of keeping him around for awhile longer before he also had the brains to realize that Tremblay was a complete a$$.
As for him being arrogant, it's called cockiness. Most goalies have it. The best goalie in the world at the time had every right to be a little cocky.
As for his son, everyone sees where he skated the full length of the ice to beat the living hell out of a guy that was too chicken shit to take up for himself, but for some reason everyone fails to mention the fact that Patrick called his son back from the bench, but his son didn't listen and beat the other guy up anyway.
Anyway, Roy was the best of his time. Brodeur is the best of his time. Which one is better is really up to each person to figure out in their own minds, since it really comes down to each persons opinion.
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1. they played the trap better b/c the defense didn't have to skate back and clear the puck. Marty did that for them... still does. Brodeur is the only goalie that I can think of that can possibly rival Turco for stick handling.
2. Roy was the one that told his son to go down the ice in the first place. Trying to call him back after the other goalie was turtling doesn't exactly get him off the hook.
3. Roy beat my Florida Panthers in 96. So screw him.  Plus I support the Wings in that rivalry, f* Claude Lemiux. So screw Roy by association!
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| I'm not gonna say either one is better. They are both fantastic goalies. But Brodeur got the record in 200 less games than Roy. That's roughly 3 1/2 seasons. That has to count for something |
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canadian_man_44
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| Slinky wrote: | 1. they played the trap better b/c the defense didn't have to skate back and clear the puck. Marty did that for them... still does. Brodeur is the only goalie that I can think of that can possibly rival Turco for stick handling.
2. Roy was the one that told his son to go down the ice in the first place. Trying to call him back after the other goalie was turtling doesn't exactly get him off the hook.
3. Roy beat my Florida Panthers in 96. So screw him. Plus I support the Wings in that rivalry, f* Claude Lemiux. So screw Roy by association! |
1. Most of the pucks didn't get through the neutral zone for Brodeur to even touch.
2. Roy called his son to come back to the bench long before he got to the other goalie. He called him back when the refs were talking to his son the first time.
3. Great!!!! Glad Patrick came through there for sure.
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