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orchidvandever
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Joined: 25 Oct 2009
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Location: London, ON, Canada
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Has anyone ever heard of flat bottom V sharpening? It's this new method of sharpening skates that i started using on mine a few months ago. Before i discovered it, I only sharpened my skates about twice a season, because I hated the feeling of stepping on the ice with a freshly sharpened pair of skates. When I started using the flat bottom, I never had that feeling and i've only had to sharpen them once so far.
Here's the website that will tell you a little more about it. I highly suggest that next time you sharpen your skates, ask the tech if they do FBV.
http://www.blackstonesport.com/
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Fullright
College
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
Posts: 32
Location: chicago
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dont know how you ladies and gentlemen can go parallel or side to side w/ a hollow. pure flat ground here. get them done about every 6 wks or so unless i get a big nick.
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itechwarrior
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Joined: 06 Nov 2008
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Location: Surrey, BC
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't really understand what you just said, but I think you mean, the movement side to side is difficult because it's too sharp? Well it's how you move.. sharper the better for control. |
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Arthriticbutterflystyle
Hall of Fame
Joined: 01 Feb 2009
Posts: 1936
Location: Calgary AB
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| itechwarrior wrote: | | I don't really understand what you just said, but I think you mean, the movement side to side is difficult because it's too sharp? Well it's how you move.. sharper the better for control. |
It's all about control and weight displacement. Sharper skates allow you to push harder, move faster and stop quicker. They also allow more grip when you're down. I personally cannot play on a dull blade. I sharpen mine about every other week at 5/8ths |
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Fullright
College
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
Posts: 32
Location: chicago
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| itechwarrior wrote: | | I don't really understand what you just said, but I think you mean, the movement side to side is difficult because it's too sharp? Well it's how you move.. sharper the better for control. |
i'm not clear about what was confusing. my skates are sharpened so that there is no hollow between the edges, ergo "flat ground". i've never had a problem planting, moving left to right or vice-versa on my feet, pushing off w/ a foot, stopping, balance, speed, etc.
with a hollow ground blade, whenever i tried to move left to right or right to left across the crease in my stance, i would catch the outer edge of the lead skate even if it was dulled some.
not advocating which way is "best"; just saying what i did. got my first pair of goalie skates in 1973 - that's how the sharpeners did it then and i just stayed with it. there is a different stone in the machine for this type of edge than the one in it for a hollow ground...beginning to get an age related complex around here.
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itechwarrior
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Location: Surrey, BC
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| Fullright wrote: |
i'm not clear about what was confusing. my skates are sharpened so that there is no hollow between the edges, ergo "flat ground". i've never had a problem planting, moving left to right or vice-versa on my feet, pushing off w/ a foot, stopping, balance, speed, etc.
with a hollow ground blade, whenever i tried to move left to right or right to left across the crease in my stance, i would catch the outer edge of the lead skate even if it was dulled some. |
Well catching the outer edge is easily fixed by how you shift your weight and move your legs.
I am assuming you played a stand up style then, and didn't require to make a butterfly slide in a down position. The sharper the skate the easier it is to do such a move.
You're right, there is no right and wrong. It all depends on preference, and how you play.
I'm no pro, in fact I'm pretty shitty. But I've done so much reading, video watching, and studying I know the principals, just can't put them in to practice.  |
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Fullright
College
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Location: chicago
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Dont sell yourself short. You're still in the nets.
I'm just amazed how things have changed. Reading this thread, it seems as if skates are now sharpened depending on playing style. Wow! Very cool.
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Arthriticbutterflystyle
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Location: Calgary AB
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Play style not only dictates the type of sharpening you have on your blades, it also dictates equipment type. There's pads designed for standup, butterfly and Hybrid (mixture of both) as well as trappers designed for catching and blocking styles.
The game has come a long way in 100 years. Think of how the old school NHLers would react to todays changes. |
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HabbySC
College
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Location: Santa Cruz Ca
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| itechwarrior wrote: | | HabbySC wrote: | | I'm 6'2, 180. Play pretty aggressive, just switched to a 7/8". My old "goalie cut" was a hack job that turned out to be a 5/8". Just about tore my ankles off. Loving the 7/8". 10 games and they're just starting to get a little loose. |
tore your ankles off? i go 1/2" and it's just fine. |
Yeah, I don't know. The 5/8ths just over-bit when I tried to stop or push off. |
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itechwarrior
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Location: Surrey, BC
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Yeah, I don't know. The 5/8ths just over-bit when I tried to stop or push off. |
oh but once you get used to real sharp skates, you always want them.
i compare having sharp skates to being on shoes on pavement vs roller blades. you have more control over movement. |
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hockeyguy1594
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canadian_man_44
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Joined: 26 Oct 2006
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Location: Moncton, NB, Canada
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| Get them sharpened to whatever you feel comfortable with, then if they're too sharp, rub them against the boards a little to dull them down a bit. That's what I do when mine are too sharp. |
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bullsandscars
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Joined: 22 Feb 2010
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Location: Big Piney Wyoming
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i dont get mine sharpened enough, maybe once every 20 hours or so.i notice when i cant push off in the butterfly slide. It only takes a few minutes to get used to a fresh sharpening job(one awkward spill from catching an edge does it for me). mine are sharpen at 11/16 hollow but i think i might switch to 5/8 and try getting them sharpened more often
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Returning2MyNet
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I have adapted to keeping mine at 3/8's, I have run gambit of 1", to 1/4 and right now 3/8 is working great, when I come back from march knee surgery I may go back to a wider hollow, but I hope not, doc says It will be about 2-3 months any way.
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