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jaredmt
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:39 am    Post subject: trouble with butterfly slides Reply with quote

im new to bein a goalie and i tried the butterfly slide that i see on a few youtube videos and it doesnt seem to work right. when i push off i hardly move and i dont slide at all, i just spin. Is this because I am playing on a lake? or am i just not doing it right?

any help/suggestions would be appreciated Smile
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montreal961
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might depend on what pads you're using. Can to share?
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jaredmt
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.hockeygiant.com/misheeltgpjr.html

those are what my pads look like, only i dont think its junior size. but other than that, its the same pads
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itechwarrior
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

those have a nylon landing pad do they not? not the best material for slides. it's mostly leg power that is going to be needed to slide properly. plus if you're new it's going to take a lot of practice anyways.
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jaredmt
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

should i try to lift my flat leg a little and kinda jump? havent tried that but it might work better than just pushing off
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch all of these, they helped me huge!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w93a32vS5E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sqKgYFC3hE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79MmP-f6ciA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=909RSVGlOZ0
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaredmt wrote:
should i try to lift my flat leg a little and kinda jump? havent tried that but it might work better than just pushing off


Do not jump, the landing can cause some injury to ligaments, your knees, and your hips. Work on form and technique (stick down, body square) slowly at first, then build up speed.

Load your pushoff leg, get a really good dig with the toe of your skate and go. As other suggested, it could be the pads, but you shouldn't be spinning around if your technique is good.

When you're not in nets, work on getting familiar with your edges and do some technical skating (goalie specific movements).

Sharp skates also help.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, those pads do have the Nylon of the sides. Once you stand practicing and building up more leg muscle, you should be able to get some slide.
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rfalls86
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had an old pair of sherwoods with the cloth or nylon on the inside and it would literally stick to the ice!! horrid!! get pads with leather when you can afford or find a good deal
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jaredmt
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

k finally got on the ice again. i had to lift myself up a little and push off and i still only slid like maybe an inch or 2. there's a stripe on the insides of both legs and it hink thats whats making me stick to the ice. o well, the league i joined was for roller hockey anyway so it probably wont make a difference
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#30renegade
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what part of your skate blade are you pushing off with?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

#30renegade wrote:
what part of your skate blade are you pushing off with?


You should at least be getting the front half of the blade down, if not most of the blade. I don't see how anyone could do that part wrong, it's pretty natural.

It might be your pads. What kind do you have?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole blade should be touching the ice upon push off.

Also he stated he had Mission Helium Elite Hockey Pads.
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Ebywyld
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick question, I have Bauer Vapor Senior leg pads, and I have literally the exact same problem.

I have powerful legs (ok, that sounds arrogant, but I'm trying to avoid some leg strength answers) as I squat well over 200 lbs. I weigh 195, and I seem to stick, is it my pads, and I just absolutely need to buy leather, or what?

And if that answer is yes, then what is a good set of cheap leg pads that won't get me killed. I regularly get shot at by NHL minor players (minor league team here in Vegas) and I don't want to die, haha, but I do want to save money wherever possible. I'm on the ground a LOT, and anything that is affordable (relatively speaking of course) would be great.

Thanks in advance for any help...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.goaliemonkey.com
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