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Ebywyld
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Location: Las Vegas, NV
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 Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject: Speed versus Power? |
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Alright, I've got to ask, as you all seem very well versed in this 'profession' that we call ours 
I've always been a big time football player, played college ball, but when I went to the gym with another goaltender, I racked up the weights and did squats with the following reps:
12
10
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8
8
Starting light in weight, and adding every set.
He told me that bodybuilding like this is HORRIBLE for me because it will slow my reflexes, and my reactions! A gentleman named Pokey Reddick (sp?) who played in the NHL seemed to agree with him when I casually asked about it at the rink...
Is this true? If so, how in the world can I build my legs to give me power for pushes and butterfly pushing, without killing my reflexes?!
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Reebokgear05
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| Those guys are right that bodybuilding is bad for your reflexes but for your leg strength lunges, plyometrics, and leg lifts using a weight machine and squats will actually help you as long as you dont use to much weight or you use no weight |
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itechwarrior
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Also those guys are right if you do it to the extreme. You definitely want to do those squats and build that leg power. If you're squatting with more than 100lbs then you've got to a good point, just maintain and don't add anymore weight. |
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Ebywyld
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| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Well crap, so do I add reps, or what? What sort of sets/reps am I looking at?
Currently, I do the following for squats:
Either
12 reps w/205 lbs
10 reps w/215 lbs
10 reps w/225 lbs
8 reps w/235 lbs
8 reps w/245 lbs
Though usually I don't finish the final set, I die around 5-6 reps.
OR on other days, I switch it up to this weird German powersquat technique I found... a good change up.
10 sets of 10 with 205
THAT burns.
What should I be doing instead? You said nothing over 100 lbs?! I weight 195, so I'm certainly hoping I should do something more than that! Right?
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JPB
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Location: Canada
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Something that I did is the P90X training.....
This includes yoga, and lots of leg exerciese and polymetrics just to name a few......
I found that its a good balance of everything and the yoga keeps you flexible and my reflexes have actually improved....
Its an insane program, but totally worth it.....
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itechwarrior
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Ebywyld wrote: | Well crap, so do I add reps, or what? What sort of sets/reps am I looking at?
Currently, I do the following for squats:
Either
12 reps w/205 lbs
10 reps w/215 lbs
10 reps w/225 lbs
8 reps w/235 lbs
8 reps w/245 lbs
Though usually I don't finish the final set, I die around 5-6 reps.
OR on other days, I switch it up to this weird German powersquat technique I found... a good change up.
10 sets of 10 with 205
THAT burns.
What should I be doing instead? You said nothing over 100 lbs?! I weight 195, so I'm certainly hoping I should do something more than that! Right? |
If you're doing squats with that much weight, you're doing just fine. I would actually reduce that weight and just maintain. I'm lucky to do squats with 100 lbs. Remember if you're squatting and carrying 100lbs, you've got your body weight plus. You really don't need to be pushing that extra weight, unless you want rugby legs, which will then slow down your movement like the other guys were saying to you.
I didn't realize you were trying that much weight. If you're 195lbs and able to do that much, you probably don't even need to be doing them at all.
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itechwarrior
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| JPB wrote: | Something that I did is the P90X training.....
This includes yoga, and lots of leg exerciese and polymetrics just to name a few......
I found that its a good balance of everything and the yoga keeps you flexible and my reflexes have actually improved....
Its an insane program, but totally worth it..... |
P90X is probably the best goalie exercise. Except it's so fucking intense, that is eats up your life. With the proper diet and amount of time it takes to do the exercise, you don't have a lot of room for other things.
I know a few guys that have done it and went from fat beer belly slobs to ripped assholes. |
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JPB
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The Nutrition is basically heathy eating, something we should all do....
As for takin' alot of time, there is usually a hour or just over that, it is different exercies each day of the week.... If there are two DVDs for that specific day, do one in the morning and one in the evening/night, makes it easier.
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Ebywyld
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I actually downloaded the P90x stuff...
Whats the best way to do it? Follow the program exactly?
I'm worried that if I follow the program exactly, I'll be way too tired to play pick-up games. I have limited experience, so I like being on the ice as much as possible, and right now that means 4 games per week, Monday through Thursday.
Should I just leap into the program (P90) by utilizing the different workouts on different days? Since I downloaded them, I can access them individually. My diet is already extremely tight, and I'm quite educated on that, its just convincing myself to follow through thats the kicker
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JPB
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There is an order, its in the manual which im assuming that u dont have if you downloaded it.....
Ill copy it down soon as i can, and put it up.
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Returning2MyNet
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The bigger you are the slower you are, hokcey requires a different kind of strength than football. you just dont need the size, if your like me and just have the size from football long ago you can not fight it, but you dont want or need it for hockey.
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Ebywyld
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In the month I've been training for hockey, I've gone from 6'1 and 212 lbs to 6'1 and 191 lbs. Fully hydrated. I'm very in tune with my body, luckily, since I've had Type I diabetes since I was thirteen, so I'm good at dropping weight if necessary, while staying hydrated and healthy.
I'm trying to get down to 185, because my MMA weight class is there, and it would help the most. I figure it'll be a good weight for hockey, just change some fat to muscle.
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JPB
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http://maggiewang.com/2007/03/07/p90x-log-sheets-and-calendar-download
You can download the calander here with the proper order for the Classic, Doubles, and Lean.....
Lean is better if you dont wanna gain alot of mass, it includes alot more cardio......
Enjoy
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Returning2MyNet
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| Ebywyld wrote: | In the month I've been training for hockey, I've gone from 6'1 and 212 lbs to 6'1 and 191 lbs. Fully hydrated. I'm very in tune with my body, luckily, since I've had Type I diabetes since I was thirteen, so I'm good at dropping weight if necessary, while staying hydrated and healthy.
I'm trying to get down to 185, because my MMA weight class is there, and it would help the most. I figure it'll be a good weight for hockey, just change some fat to muscle. |
you should seek out Chackle on GEW or the other board for training advice then.
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Ebywyld
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Gew? Not sure what that is...
Thanks for the link to the calender though!
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