butterfly stop

Nabokov · Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:35 am Post subject: butterfly stop

whens the best time to go down? my teammates tell me i go down way too early and too often
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netmind · Hall of Fame Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 1501

well seeing you wont be playing be for a while...
dont listen to them. i stood there the other day and listened to parent lecture about a teams goalie for 5 min about how he should stay up and this and that down to soon, etc.. i poked my head over and said "he is a butterfly goalie, a butterfly goalie plays down, he has nice slide and recovery, and good net coerage."
the score of the game was a loss for him 3-1 but his D was none existant i pointed that out as well.

the thing is folks will say this alot, because it is ingrained in peoples heads from back in the day when a goalie who went down could not move and got burned. Truth be told we all hear this...like on the slap shot fromt he point...its coming low so you bfly, it gets tipped and goes in up in a corner...its guaranteed that some player on your team or some one will say, why did you go down, or if you stayed up like I aways say that would not have gone in, see.
the point being no matter what style you play your going to hear that stuff. YOU need to play your game your style your way. you know when you scew up. like if you go down to early on a deek....but ask what was that guy doing running free at you...in hockey blame can roll out of the net minder just as quickly as it can roll in...more likely out faster than in.

canadian_man_44 · Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject:

I had the exact same thing happen to me on a team I played on in the last city I lived in. We were winning most of our games, but the odd one that we lost, I would get the same reaction from some of my team mates. I started asking the d-men who were telling me not to go down exactly what they were doing on the play. That didn't work, so I asked which one of them wanted to play net instead. That also didn't work. About 10 minutes into a game, and after allowing one goal on a tipped shot that I'm pretty sure deflected off my d-mans stick, I was again told, "don't go down, blah blah blah. If you had of stayed up the puck would have hit you." I was so tired of the BS, I looked back at the guy and said "okay, you don't want me to go down, I won't", just loud enough for the rest of my guys to hear. I stuck to it too. I didn't go down for the rest of that period and part of the next. When we were down by a few more goals, a couple of which I normally would have stopped with my butterfly or butterfly slide, the captain of the team skated back to me and told me to just play my game and basically told the rest of the team to shut up and play their positions. We ended up winning the game by one goal and they never told me how to play my position again.
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FutureSuperstar93 · Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject:

Jeez C-dawg that was a complicated plan. I would have just gotten naked and ran around the rink.

It depends on how you're getting scored on when you go down. If it's like a 2 on 1 and they make a pass, you slide over, and they pass back and tap it in...You're going down too early. If you're just getting beat up high when you're down, you might not be coming out enough so they can still see the top shelf and easily shoot it in. How are you getting beat when you go down?

montreal961 · Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject:

i would have never did that, but i bet it felt goood. Twisted Evil

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montreal961 · Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject:

FS: im sure you would have a bunch of new girlfriends after that. Wink

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auburn goalie · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject:

R2MN: my coaches are all like that. it pisses me off.(is piss a swear?) and the thing is, they dont play goalie. i dont like taking advice from people that have never played the position before. im just weird like that Rolling Eyes

FutureSuperstar93 · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject:

It isn't bad to take advice from a shooters point of view, though

gimbo726 · Pro Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 984 Location: Dallas, Texas

Shooters are the best people to listen to when they're telling you about angles. My friend's a d-man and he helps me all the time to set me straight.
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montreal961 · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject:

agreed, they are the ones that can see the holes and stuff like that.
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gimbo726 · Pro Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 984 Location: Dallas, Texas

But if a non-goalie starts talking about technique, that's just annoying.

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puckstopper35 · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:52 am Post subject:

[quote="gimbo726"]But if a non-goalie starts talking about technique, that's just annoying.

P.s. Yay I'm in the hall of fame![/quote]

Welcome Wink

I hate it when I walk through the hotel lobby when we're at a tournament and I hear some of the mother's talking to their goalies and saying stuff along the lines of "why did you go down?" "that's not right" And clearly they have no idea what they're talking about.

I like to go up in the stands, sit behind everybody and listen to some of the comments about the goaltending. And I just shake my head at the stupidity Very Happy

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montreal961 · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:12 am Post subject:

I know. Sad really...
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auburn goalie · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject:

whenever someone is talkin S*** about me, i say, you want to try this? Laughing

so far, no one has. i want to meet the kid that is cocky enough to.