Pittsburgh Penguins

Slinky · Minors Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 471 Location: Canton, GA

all the young guys in the NHL from the roadtrip commercial a couple years ago did a great job... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp1DMQ-x33k

though not as good as the Swedish Twins commercial
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puckstopper135 · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject:

Saw that one, thought it was hilarious how all Crosby had to say was "Ovechkin!" while Ovie said a shitload of stuff Laughing

canadian_man_44 · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject:

Arthriticbutterflystyle · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject:

I knew someone was going to say that and I legitimately agree but that's this year, and kudos to him for it...like I said, he's maturing. That's good because he was annoying as s**t the first time I saw him and throw in his All Star game stunt and I have 0 respect for him right now.

So far as assists go, think about this...what is the qualifier for an assist? You shoot the puck, goalie gives a 20 ft rebound (it happens to all of us) and another guy slams the puck home. Did Crosby pass? No. Should he have passed to get the first shot in? Probably. Did the puck get in? Yes. Did it get in because of Crosby's original "team mentality"? No. It got in because he got greedy and lucky with a rebound. I've seen it happen several times. And before you argue that, yes I know some of the great players intentionally shoot for a rebound...hell it happens to me every time Parillo is on the ice which is what's helping me work my rebound control but that doesn't mean (from what I remember seeing) that that was what Crosby was doing. It's always looked more to me like he doesn't even look around before he rips the shot and just happens to get lucky. So far as watching Ovie this series which I've been fortunate enough to see every game, Ovie has taken 38 shots but he's had nearly the same number of hits and far more assists then goals. And you can see when he's out there that he's shooting for the rebound because you'll see him look around at who's where and what lanes are open.

On a side note, I don't think we've ever disagreed Laughing

canadian_man_44 · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject:

For the regular season Ovie has 2 more goals then assists while Crosby has 70 assists with only 33 goals. I've had the opportunity to watch Crosby from the time he was 13 years old playing against older players in Nova Scotia. Right from that time he has had the mentality of a play maker. Most of the time spent in the oppositions zone, you will find him behind the net or in the corner with the puck looking for someone to pass the puck to. Very few of his assists actually come from shooting and someone putting the rebound in.
As far as him not looking around before ripping the shot....why would he have to? Did you ever see Gretzky looking around when he was coming into the zone? Not very often. Some players train themselves to use their peripheral vision better so they don't actually look like they're looking around when they are. **** Married guys do that all the time to check out some chick so his wife doesn't see it. Laughing

Anyway, the guy has plenty of talent and is a legitimate superstar, as his stats plainly show. Whether you like him or not has absolutely nothing to do with his ability to play the game. Some people don't like him because they see him too much on commercials and such. Some people don't like him because he's a "pretty boy". Some people don't like him because of the misconception that he's full of himself.
The boys got talent, that's the bottom line.
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Arthriticbutterflystyle · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject:

Yeah...military training: Day 1...how to stare without actually looking. God I love that ability. And it translates nicely to the ice.

Anyways, He is a pretty boy, and he is pretty full of himself. I'm still not willing to grant him superstar status yet.

Doosh27 · Minors Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 165

There is no doubt that he is a great player. And he is definately a superstar. But he won't get the respect and recognition he deserves from alot of fans until he stops acting like a little cry baby. That's not gonna change until he quits diving, crying to the refs all the time, and jumping guys that aren't looking

canadian_man_44 · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject:

Like I said, I've been watching him since he was 13. He's matured quite a bit in the last couple years. As far as the "crying to the refs" thing goes, I think people are getting talking to the ref, which the C on his shoulder gives him the right to do, with crying. He may get a little more emotional then some of the veteran captains, but hey, he's still a kid. Gotta cut him a little slack.
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Arthriticbutterflystyle · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:52 pm Post subject:

Slinky · Minors Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 471 Location: Canton, GA

i completely disagree with giving guys in their 20's the C, even more so a 19 year old kid. It's too much pressure. You could see the change in Crosby when he got the C, Crosby and Toews need to focus on playing not leading. And how does a team expect a 17 year vet to defer to a sophomore player?

the reasoning for the teams is thus: 1) these guys = money. you want as much talk and face time as possible 2) detroit had yzerman, and that was the beginning of 15 years of dominance... don't think for a second chicago and pittsburgh aren't trying to do the exact same thing.
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canadian_man_44 · Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:59 am Post subject:

Although some teams do seem to pick their Captains too young, there is more to it then a pretty face and a high profile. The Captain is chosen because of his leadership both in the dressing room and on the bench. Obviously someone has faith in Crosby in that department.

Some people will call Crosby a wuss and a crybaby. The fact is, Crosby is a fairly tough customer who doesn't back down. That point was clarified for me in the regular season by one incident. Marc Savard of the Bruins was chirping at Crosby and telling him to remove his visor so they could go a round. Crosby went to the bench and removed his visor so Savard could put his money where his mouth is. Savard backed down and the fight didn't happen....but the fact is, Crosby was ready to go anytime. No crying, no wussing out, just getting prepared and not backing down.

Anyway, I can hardly wait for this next series to start. Crosby and Ovechkin have been going at each other all season when they played each other. In a series like this it's going to be interesting to see what transpires between the two.
Pittsburgh in 7.
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