Canadian National Anthem

#30renegade · Pro Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 646 Location: michigan

yea!weve defeated the beast!jk.
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FutureSuperstar93 · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject:

You mean they

canadian_man_44 · Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:18 am Post subject:

About the respect.......I stand for the singing of both anthems.....I stand at attention to show the proper respect for my countries anthem. The Canadian national anthem is my favorite song. I get pissed when someone doesn't take off their hat/helmet for the singing of either anthem.

BTW, whoever said they play the anthem of the country from which the teams on the ice are from is absolutely right. If Montreal and Toronto are playing, they only sing the one anthem. If Montreal and Boston are playing, they sing both.
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montreal961 · Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:02 pm Post subject:

i alwauys go to these sijhl games in my home town, and whenever they sing the anthems, there always someone standing there talking or playing with there hat on there head. one time, ( this was a guy i knew ) i slaped a guy in the back of the head and whispered " show some damn respect " some people or just that disrespectful.
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netmind · Hall of Fame Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 1501

ITs a terrible sickness that has infiltrated both our societies 961, 44. I dont know who or what specifically to put the blame on, but in the end I would have to think it would be families. Families that are forgetting to instill basic National Pride, and basic selflessness and community values. I hold doors open for folks all the time, i dont let my kids run rampant around the ice rink like the other rinkrats. Maybe its all the latch key kids today, or selfish parents, over commitment to PC (which one would think would instill these positive behaviors) I dont know, but what I do know is that the ME generation has lots of issues.

FutureSuperstar93 · Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:01 pm Post subject:

number55 · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:06 am Post subject:

I like when they sing both anthems. It feels more liek a "true" hockey game. Plus canadian fans have so much passion, they make the arena more alive.

canadian_man_44 · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:46 am Post subject:

mx42 · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:00 am Post subject:

I disagree with both of you.

IMO it's media coverage.

As media coverage expands and information is more readily available to everyone, we see that many people begin to see the failings of government more so than the benefits such an establishment offers. People tend to remember the negatives easier than the positives. Keep this in mind. Ever gotten really shitty customer service from a company? I'm sure you guys went out of your way to blast them. On the other hand, when something went well with another company, it's less likely that you spread the good word about them. It's human nature.

Back to media coverage. Many historians cite support in the US during the Vietnam war as an example, in comparison to wars past. With the increased media coverage of the time compared to times past, information was more available in more places. People saw the brutality of the war, and as a result wanted to pull the soldiers out. Compare this to the lack of information (or outright withholding of information by the government) during previous wars. There is no way a little telegraph machine can describe the brutalities of war and bring it home to a family's living room the way pictures (moving and still) and sound can.

As a result of this, we get know-it-all kids who read the news and think they know both sides of the coin. I am a fairly respectful guy, well that is until people piss me off - but I think we are all like that. However, I am reasonable to deal with too. If people show me that I'm wrong, I have no problem admitting that I screwed up. My time in Juniors taught me that I have a lot to learn (even outside of hockey).

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montreal961 · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject:

ok so...

its the courts falt for taking away all the dicepline rights, so the families dont punish the kids cause tehre afriad of getting in trouble, and kids are to smart cause they watch the media nad do what they do. Thus forming no-it-all kids like FS.

Anything eles?
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netmind · Hall of Fame Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 1501

I agree with what mx is saying about the media, so much so that they inmy opinion have forsaken the people to whom they are supposedly "reporting" the news. The media seeks out the most outlandish information to report, and they just dont report it, they massage it to the highest degree to give it even more impact...its not that a person died in a tragic auto collision, its that the person who died was dismembered and those body parts scattered about. they spend 15 min on it, then they give the life story of the persons involved, because they spent so much time looking to see if either had ever done any thng wrong.
AS for the reporting of information during war's, battles and engagements. I do not believe it is the right for any media representatives to be allowed to present. I dont care if as part of thier credentials if they were part of one of our many special forces units, its no place for them, more over I agree with what we ( the United States and all the allies ) did regrading the filtering of information in WWI and WWII and those wars that preceded them.

I think your in with 42 and I on this 44, the pandering and catering to fewest peoples idead, the crazed media and the creation of laws that try to spell out what our every action should be, and courts that attempt to legislate are all part of the same problem. common senses tells us that if our child is truly being unruly....or does something just totally unacceptable...like for me Running in the parking lots and nearly darting out in front of a car...a quick swat to the but is in order and a reprimand. this is not beating or hitting your child yet some would make this criminal...so ok lets say it was criminal would you then should a child dart infront of a car in a parking lot and be hit by they car...doesnt matter if they die just get hit...do you then charge the parent for child endangerment and have childrens service take the kid from them...cause seriously like you point out if you pass laws on every action you have to have them on both sides of the spectrum.
I dont like political talk on BBs or Religion for that matter it only serves to divid the community and eventually lead it in to a mess because it comes between freindships. I think were skirting on the political right now because every thing like this comes back to it in one form or another because and i will use the phrase I have bestowed upon the US gov ..as being either Electators, or the Elected Class. that its their fault. Its become about which party is better, and our party against yours which only came about because the founders never included term limits in the constitution. It was an issues which was brought up, but none of them believed anyone would ever want to serve consecutive terms because of the sacrifice and hardship ships that came with positions. Now the elected class is paid what constitutes "Rich wages" and not just for their term of service but for life. these wages should be no more than the National Average Wage, for the term of service, and we the people should provide them with modest housing and meals. To top it off many of them are handsomely paid for serving on boards, of companies they author books...its just all wrong and so far departed from the intent, its no wonder the holistic mess we are in right now. It is my belief that no one person is capable of fixing it, certainly not either or both main parties they are polarized and both held prisoner by foriegn interests, corporations, special interest groups and grossly wealthy indviduals We to scrap everything and all of them but the Constitution & Bill of rights and start over.
sorry for the ranting folks

canadian_man_44 · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject:

Hell of a speech there boss. Wink

Just one little thing to add to this conversation, then I'll be done. Just to show the role that courts have on teaching respect, or the lack of, to our children.

This has actually happened and it really sucks. A child went out one night, went on other peoples property and started breaking windows and other shit. He caused a lot of damage and was taken to court and charged for it. The courts let the child off, but, turned around and made the parents pay for the damages. This kind of thing has happened more often then I care to mention during the past 10 years or so. The kid knew that he wouldn't be held responsible, so he had no respect for other peoples property.

There are a lot of things today, including court systems, media, etc. that we can bunch together and blame for the lack of respect that some young people have today. The bottom line is, it is not cool. Respect other, their countries and their rights and things will be a lot better. FS.......that also means showing some respect for their national anthem.
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Prospero2099 · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject:

a very funny thing... the french version and the english version don't have the same meaning (O:
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Alexm · College Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 32