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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:29 am    Post subject: The Plug in Action Reply with quote

Looking for some constructive criticism on my game.

My History: I've been playing hockey for about 2 years, had never skated before then.

The Game: This is my 2nd balancing(exhibition) game of my season. It's the beginning of the season plus I'm breaking in some new equipment so I'm predictably a little rusty Embarassed . We ended up losing 6-2 Surprised with the shots being 45-11 Sad . I play decently but let in a few goals I usually would of had(3 wrap around-ish goals and a lost rebound Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad )

A few things I noticed about my game that need improvement.
1. Playing plays down-low, post-intergration (behind the net, in close by the posts(see goal #2)) Anyone know some good drills for training for this situation?
2. Reading the play (usually pretty good at this but as I said, I'm pretty rusty (see goal #2))
3. Tracking the puck (although I wasn't wearing my usual contacts I still need to improve this(see goal #1))
4. Keep hands static and in front of body, stick control
5. Positioning (I found myself a little deep and off angle sometimes)
6. Oversliding (At 6'4 I don't need to push off hard to cover the distance I want, I need to realize that)

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=O4WebaS6rfI
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the first 20 seconds of the video, you go down for the initial shot, and then you don't get back up. They'll burn you high if you stay down that long, they'll all start noticing and then you'll really have a big issue.

Your butterfly slides are really fluid, no issues there, except there's a few times you use it when not needed... like if the puck rebounds into the corner, try to get up and move over instead of sliding then getting up. Saves time and effort later on.

Your movement around the crease was really good - you were in good position, out nice and far for the most part.

Other than that... 45 shots, 6 goals? Not the greatest, but not horrible either. Good job Smile

About drills with the post integration - I do one with my goalies where I start at the hashmarks (without a puck) and they have to follow me, I do a loop behind the net, and they must go into the appropriate position each time. Meaning, if I'm standing close to the post and in front of the goal line, they must assume the "one leg against post" stance/ish thing. The second I move behind the goal line, they're to get up and hold the post, and then it continues this way, with me altering speeds at which they must go down, get up, etc... and everynow and then I'll yell "PASS", which means they have to slide from where they're positioned directly across to where my pass would be going. Typically I do this when they are tight against the post, so they have to butterfly slide out to the middle of their crease, or to the far side.

Hope this helps Smile And sorry if it's not very clear.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i find that if you scrimmage at a practice it helps your team to point out what your doing right or wrong before it matters, and you have to move from one situation to another on the fly
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

puckstopper35 wrote:
In the first 20 seconds of the video, you go down for the initial shot, and then you don't get back up. They'll burn you high if you stay down that long, they'll all start noticing and then you'll really have a big issue.

Your butterfly slides are really fluid, no issues there, except there's a few times you use it when not needed... like if the puck rebounds into the corner, try to get up and move over instead of sliding then getting up. Saves time and effort later on.

Your movement around the crease was really good - you were in good position, out nice and far for the most part.

Other than that... 45 shots, 6 goals? Not the greatest, but not horrible either. Good job Smile

About drills with the post integration - I do one with my goalies where I start at the hashmarks (without a puck) and they have to follow me, I do a loop behind the net, and they must go into the appropriate position each time. Meaning, if I'm standing close to the post and in front of the goal line, they must assume the "one leg against post" stance/ish thing. The second I move behind the goal line, they're to get up and hold the post, and then it continues this way, with me altering speeds at which they must go down, get up, etc... and everynow and then I'll yell "PASS", which means they have to slide from where they're positioned directly across to where my pass would be going. Typically I do this when they are tight against the post, so they have to butterfly slide out to the middle of their crease, or to the far side.

Hope this helps Smile And sorry if it's not very clear.


Sorry, puckstopper, but on a couple things you said...

In a lot of instances it is better not to get up after the first shot. Especially if you aren't going to be able to sqaure yourself to the shot if you get up, if you can be on your angle and sqaure while you're down, you can stay down. But if you can move over laterally and get sqaure in your butterfly and still have time to get up, that is a better choicee. But sliding over to the rebound is something a lot of goalies have been doing recently.

Lateral movement is more efficent to getting where you need to be in a faster time, it takes less energy and it's quicker. It isn't a big deal either way, though, I do it how he does it.

And what I saw...You stay pretty deep in the crease, most of the time you're in the paint, even when the puck is up at the point. Don't be afraid to come out, you'll stop a lot for shots that way and the stops will be easier. And on one play you didn't finish you T-glide and just kind of cut it short half way through, just make sure your using enough leg strength to get across or it defeats the purpose.

On the close in shots you were wondering about, don't go down when they do a close in shot because they have the whole net to shoot at. Just stay sqaure and come out to them, or else they have the entire side of the net.

There aren't any drills I know of that can work on wrap around, all you have to do is just go down and stay tight to the post with your stick out in front of the side of the net, and if they cut out front just stay in front of them and they shouldn't be able to get it over you.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see what you mean FS. I've just been teaching my goalies to try and get up as much as possible, but that's because I'm afraid if I don't tell them to do that, they'll get in the habit of staying down all the time, and get burnt up high.

As for the sliding - all a personal preference thing I guess. I find it easier to get up, then move over, but you're right - it all ends up being the same in the end.

Coops - that's not a bad idea, but I find players don't really know what they're talking about when it comes to goaltending, and some of their advice might just screw you up more.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

puckstopper35 wrote:
I see what you mean FS. I've just been teaching my goalies to try and get up as much as possible, but that's because I'm afraid if I don't tell them to do that, they'll get in the habit of staying down all the time, and get burnt up high.

As for the sliding - all a personal preference thing I guess. I find it easier to get up, then move over, but you're right - it all ends up being the same in the end.

Coops - that's not a bad idea, but I find players don't really know what they're talking about when it comes to goaltending, and some of their advice might just screw you up more.


of course they dont, you have to interpret it, i guess im just lucky because i was a player for so long
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old are you plug?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 16

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE:

Here's some footage of my latest game. My team won 6-0. Myself making the 19 save shutout effort. Just some feedback of how I'm coming along compared to the 1st video would be great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xbo7Wanekk
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I notice you really shimmy around the net a lot. Instead maybe you should try more direct movement. C cut, T push, stop in position. Less movement on the body, uses less energy and is quick. This is what I was taught by my goalie coaches anyways.

You also really love to butterfly slide, a lot. Sometimes you end up sliding too far as well.

Other then that your game looks pretty solid.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butterfly slides are looking good, and like itechwarrior said, you really love to use them. Most of the times when you used them on there were perfect.

On the first breakaway you had (at around 1:09), try to keep your body more compact, you really kinda flung yourself. It's okay in some situations, but it seemed almost unnecessary in this case. Just a nice butterfly slide over while staying square with the shooter would've worked just as well.

also - at around 1:35, you backed up too far in your net. You had good initial positioning, and then it seemed as they came closer you backed up.

Other than that, it looks good Smile Keep it up.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st goal: challenge more

not gonna lie, I got distracted and clicked on another video so I didn't really see much else Embarassed I'll watch the rest tomorrow.
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