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puckstopper35
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 Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:42 am Post subject: Puck Behind Net... Proper Way to Play? |
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Hey guys, I took this video of a local AAA Midget team that was practicing before my sister's team yesterday.
When the puck carrier goes behind the net, the goalie slides across but then gets up to push out once the guy passes the puck.
Is this a good way to play it, or would I be better off just getting that one good push from post-to-post and save time? Now, this is assuming I had the same quickness as that guy (which I don't). What about for my sister and the other goalie? How should I tell them to play this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiNDdHM0_tA
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rjattack19
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: |
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thats usually how i play it but then again i have never been coached.
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itechwarrior
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well really, he doesn't fully get up, he just lifts his left leg enough to get a proper push forward. i'm assuming you're talking about the push back out to centre from the left post, where they end up scoring.
on the second shot he doesn't even go down all the way, cause he sees the shot was high. and on the third shot he just slides in to a butterfly.
in my opinion, from what i've been coached, and the amount of video that i've watched. he does the right move the first time around for the situation. and in the second shot, he doesn't go down cause he see's the shot go high. so overall he's doing the right thing.
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mx42
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The first shot (the one that went in) was played incorrectly IMO. There is no reason for him to drop - the puck carrier swooped around the net and passed it to the open guy in front. The carrier was so far away from the net, there was basically no chance for a wrap (which is the only reason the goalie should have dropped that early). Instead, he had to recover and readjust, which he could not do in time as the puck wound up in the net. You see his "oh sh*t" readjust the angle moment at about 5 seconds into the video.
The next two shots were played much better, but the shooters showed about as much creativity and skill as a cactus. |
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TheAntiw00t
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In my opinion i pretty much agree with everyone's replies. I think that everyone would play this situation different depending on how good of a skater you are and how well you are anticipating the guy with the puck to be. Honestly, if there was a shooter in the low slot area (which probably was the case when they scored) i would probably just go post to post on my feet and then read the play from there if i'm looking at a centering pass or a wrap. However, if i didn't read a shooter in the near slot area, i would've probably anticipated a wrap and done a butterfly slide towards the opposite post to cover in the event that the wrap does happen, then if it doesn't you can recover and continue tracking. It's probably more difficult to read these than anything since you are left on an island with two possible outlets and an open slot for guys to sneak in. I think as long as you are aware of the off puck shooters, then the decision can be made from there.
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puckstopper35
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Thanks guys, it was mostly the first shot that I was wondering about... because he seemed to get caught because he dropped. But basically it all depends on whether it's going to be a wrap, and where the other forwards are... right?
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i never went to a goalie school or anything, but that's what seems to be the biggest factor to me. It's a super difficult decision to make when you're all alone with no defenseman to help you out because of the possibilities of what the on puck skater is going to do.
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mx42
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| puckstopper35 wrote: | | Thanks guys, it was mostly the first shot that I was wondering about... because he seemed to get caught because he dropped. But basically it all depends on whether it's going to be a wrap, and where the other forwards are... right? |
Of course. Where the other players are in relation to the puck carrier, as well as the defensive coverage (if any) on these guys is what determines how the goalie sets up for a shot.
The easiest way to illustrate this:
On a clear slapper from the blue line with no traffic and nobody near the front of the net, the goalie can challenge up to the hash marks if he wants to. Conversely, when there is a forward crashing the net and a one man screen parked in front of him that we have to readjust.
The best way for the goalie to have played the one that went in is set up camp against the right post. This puts the shooter into a decision: pass or wrap. In addition to the advantage gained by a split second of hesitation, if the goalie notices the shooter coming in tight, he can logically play as if it was a wrap (butterfly or vertical/horizontal into the left post).
If the carrier passes the puck, then it's a simply a lateral push into a butterfly save. The goalie will know that there is basically no room blocker side, chances are the shooter will one time it to the glove.
I think the goalie lost the puck as he went across with the player cutting behind the net. |
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Great imput there, MX 
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| auburn goalie wrote: | | Great imput there, MX |
Ditto that!
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